During a raw and emotional interview with Mariah the Scientist on her Apple Music 1 show Over It Radio, Summer Walker reflected on the traumatic moments she faced while bringing her kids into the world, moments that she says almost killed her.

In rare candor, Walker didn’t mince words, and he didn’t sugarcoat. She was asked at the 12:55 mark to compare her first and second birthing experiences, to which she responded by saying both were traumatic in their own right but that her second birth, despite it being shorter, was more intense. Her first labor, she said, lasted an excruciating 52 hours, two days of nonstop anguish and uncertainty. Compounding that, pushing out her twin sons took about seven hours, effectively quick delivery but an exhausting, devastating one for her physically as well as emotionally. “That was bad. All of it was bad,” she said with characteristic bluntness.

In addition, Walker revealed that she “almost died both times,” a chilling reminder of the life-threatening health risks she faced as a mother. Yet her spirit was undiminished. When Mariah inquired about whether she would do childbirth again, Waker immediately responded “yes” before rapidly adding that she also loves her kids and she’s very resilient. Summer Walker became a mother for the first time in 2021 when she and producer London on Da Track (born London Tyler Holmes) welcomed daughter Bubbles Renee Walker. But giving birth to her first child also came with major struggles. A year later, she grew her family, delivering twin boys with her partner, the rapper LVRD Pharoh.

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While each birth was special in its own way, the two were home births. Opting for home births only deepened the intimacy and the risk, a revelation that Walker admits is seeded with the wisdom of someone who skirted danger. Though the mental and physical scars of her near-death experiences will never fade, Walker’s dedication to motherhood stands unwavering. She is brave and vulnerable, indicative of the strength many mothers must pull to survive long odds.

This new discussion comes as Walker readies herself for the next phase of her career. The “Still Over It” singer had previously shared a preview of a voicemail conversation between her and Lil Meech, which hints at themes of vulnerability and growth as she continues to drum up interest in her project, a new album due out in 2025. And if this unfiltered moment is any indication, fans will see an even rawer and perhaps more revealing version of Summer Walker in her music going forward.

Motherhood, trauma, and triumph are now interwoven deeply into Walker’s story. By showing fans her most fragile moments, when those moments are on display for virtually anyone anywhere, she is sharing not just music but a testimony of survival and strength. In telling her tale, Summer Walker continues to resonate with her listeners outside the concert hall walls, proving that strength is frequently packaged in the form of our ugliest experiences and that love, any way you slice it, is always worth the fight.

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